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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Kathryn Merrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Merrow</dc:creator>
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		<description>Jane, thank you for letting me know and you are most welcome.  

Tight muscles can be very uncomfortable.  This is a good starting point.  There may be a reason the serratus muscle is giving grief to you.  There may be others areas to check out along the way.

I appreciate your kind words.  Thank you very much!

Kathryn
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, thank you for letting me know and you are most welcome.  </p>
<p>Tight muscles can be very uncomfortable.  This is a good starting point.  There may be a reason the serratus muscle is giving grief to you.  There may be others areas to check out along the way.</p>
<p>I appreciate your kind words.  Thank you very much!</p>
<p>Kathryn<br />
The Pain Relief Coach</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am eternally grateful to you Kathryn. My physio started work on the serratus superior posterior muscle today, very painful at times, but I definitely feel this is the way forward for me. So thank you once again. Your website is so informative and helpful, it is now officially my back-bible.
Kindest regards 
Jane Mitchell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am eternally grateful to you Kathryn. My physio started work on the serratus superior posterior muscle today, very painful at times, but I definitely feel this is the way forward for me. So thank you once again. Your website is so informative and helpful, it is now officially my back-bible.<br />
Kindest regards<br />
Jane Mitchell</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Kathryn Merrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Merrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jane,

Thank you and you are very welcome!

When I look at the trigger point chart, the description that you gave me in this and your previous comment appears to be muscles called serratus posterior superior.  That muscle is between the spine and shoulder blade and attaches to the outside of the ribs in back.  This muscle group may be what the physiotherapist inadvertently released when she worked to manipulate the &#039;fused rib.&#039;  It sounds like it may be the same area.  Regardless, it worked. :-) 

Tennis Ball Therapy may help as a home treatment.  (There is an article here about Tennis Ball Therapy--scroll through the articles on the right hand side.)  The place to apply the pressure is where you first felt it--between spine and upper shoulder blade?  Cold packs may also help.  And if nerves are involved, cold is the treatment of choice for nerve related muscle pain.

I&#039;m betting cold packs on the back of your neck, base of your skull will also help by relaxing the muscles there.  It&#039;s possible other neck muscles may be involved but that&#039;s a good start for the neck pain.  Actually, if you can, wrap the cold pack around from the base of your skull to your collarbones.  Be sure to put a thin cloth between you and the cold pack to prevent burning from the cold.

Kathryn
The Pain Relief Coach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jane,</p>
<p>Thank you and you are very welcome!</p>
<p>When I look at the trigger point chart, the description that you gave me in this and your previous comment appears to be muscles called serratus posterior superior.  That muscle is between the spine and shoulder blade and attaches to the outside of the ribs in back.  This muscle group may be what the physiotherapist inadvertently released when she worked to manipulate the &#8216;fused rib.&#8217;  It sounds like it may be the same area.  Regardless, it worked. <img src='http://www.simplebackpainrelief.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Tennis Ball Therapy may help as a home treatment.  (There is an article here about Tennis Ball Therapy&#8211;scroll through the articles on the right hand side.)  The place to apply the pressure is where you first felt it&#8211;between spine and upper shoulder blade?  Cold packs may also help.  And if nerves are involved, cold is the treatment of choice for nerve related muscle pain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m betting cold packs on the back of your neck, base of your skull will also help by relaxing the muscles there.  It&#8217;s possible other neck muscles may be involved but that&#8217;s a good start for the neck pain.  Actually, if you can, wrap the cold pack around from the base of your skull to your collarbones.  Be sure to put a thin cloth between you and the cold pack to prevent burning from the cold.</p>
<p>Kathryn<br />
The Pain Relief Coach</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Kathryn Merrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Merrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch, Jane!  That is exactly what your body is telling you. 

Take care,
Kathryn
The Pain Relief Coach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch, Jane!  That is exactly what your body is telling you. </p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Kathryn<br />
The Pain Relief Coach</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to say  too,that my posture is more than likely the root cause. I tend to sit for hours at my desk when working, forget the time, so when I&#039;m under pressure too, the added stress doesn&#039;t help. I intend to address this when I get back to the office, take more breaks, and get a better chair. Been doing this work for 34 years now, perhaps my back is telling me its time to stop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to say  too,that my posture is more than likely the root cause. I tend to sit for hours at my desk when working, forget the time, so when I&#8217;m under pressure too, the added stress doesn&#8217;t help. I intend to address this when I get back to the office, take more breaks, and get a better chair. Been doing this work for 34 years now, perhaps my back is telling me its time to stop!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh Kathryn, I never expected such a helpful response! The numbness in my right hand is on the back of the hand and the underside of my foream. The pain is on pointy side of the elbow, lower side of my upper arm and under my armpit going around to the front. Sitting causes me more discomfort than standing, especially if unsupported. Head movement looking side to side is ok, but putting it down to my chest or looking up to the ceiling is worse. I had this problem 20+ years ago, off work for 12 weeks then. Physio eventually started to manipulate a rib which she thought was fused to my spine as conventional treatment was obviously not working, 2 weeks later I was back to work. I&#039;m doing the shoulder rolls and the arm twist and circle movements as in your video. I&#039;ll look at the carpal tunnel information next. Thank you so much for this Kathryn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Kathryn, I never expected such a helpful response! The numbness in my right hand is on the back of the hand and the underside of my foream. The pain is on pointy side of the elbow, lower side of my upper arm and under my armpit going around to the front. Sitting causes me more discomfort than standing, especially if unsupported. Head movement looking side to side is ok, but putting it down to my chest or looking up to the ceiling is worse. I had this problem 20+ years ago, off work for 12 weeks then. Physio eventually started to manipulate a rib which she thought was fused to my spine as conventional treatment was obviously not working, 2 weeks later I was back to work. I&#8217;m doing the shoulder rolls and the arm twist and circle movements as in your video. I&#8217;ll look at the carpal tunnel information next. Thank you so much for this Kathryn.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 TipsTo Keep Your Back Pain From Getting Worse by Kathryn Merrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Merrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jane,

Good question.  The answer is yes, muscles can be causing the numbness.  Trigger points in muscles can cause pain and other uncomfortable symptoms.  But, muscles move bones and disks!

That means that muscles can pull or push your disks into the nerves and cause numbness that way, too.  

Tight chest muscles, arm muscles and neck muscles can trap nerves anywhere from your neck to your hand, too.

There are several muscles that can be causing your symptoms.  Please write again and tell me specifically which side of your hand (palm or back side?) and which part of your arm (crease of elbow or pointy elbow)?  Do you mean below your armpit on the front side or the back?

Until I have more clues from you, my best guesses are the latissimus or the serratus muscles which cover your ribs.  Those muscles can be released or relaxed by a skilled massage therapist.  

Or, if you can, have someone grab the muscle below your armpit, next to your shoulder blade.  And then have them pinch it and hold for about 20 seconds.  You want them to pick up muscle, not just skin.  If it hurts, that means it is tight and the pinching will help the muscle to relax.  Pay attention about 20 minutes after the pinch and you may notice it feels much better.

And there is always a question, Jane.  The question is Why?  There is a &lt;em&gt;reason &lt;/em&gt;you are having symptoms.  Disks cannot move all by themselves.  So it could be an injury (any car accidents?) or it could be posture or position that is causing pulling or pushing on those disks.

I hope you enjoyed the shoulder rolls and stretches.  :-)  Have you been to &lt;a href=&quot;http://CarpalTunnelPainReliefNow.com &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://CarpalTunnelPainReliefNow.com&lt;/a&gt; yet?  Lots of articles there about the causes of pain in hands and arms.  

You are welcome and let&#039;s get to the root of your symptoms of numbness and pain in your hand and fingers.

Kathryn
The Pain Relief Coach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jane,</p>
<p>Good question.  The answer is yes, muscles can be causing the numbness.  Trigger points in muscles can cause pain and other uncomfortable symptoms.  But, muscles move bones and disks!</p>
<p>That means that muscles can pull or push your disks into the nerves and cause numbness that way, too.  </p>
<p>Tight chest muscles, arm muscles and neck muscles can trap nerves anywhere from your neck to your hand, too.</p>
<p>There are several muscles that can be causing your symptoms.  Please write again and tell me specifically which side of your hand (palm or back side?) and which part of your arm (crease of elbow or pointy elbow)?  Do you mean below your armpit on the front side or the back?</p>
<p>Until I have more clues from you, my best guesses are the latissimus or the serratus muscles which cover your ribs.  Those muscles can be released or relaxed by a skilled massage therapist.  </p>
<p>Or, if you can, have someone grab the muscle below your armpit, next to your shoulder blade.  And then have them pinch it and hold for about 20 seconds.  You want them to pick up muscle, not just skin.  If it hurts, that means it is tight and the pinching will help the muscle to relax.  Pay attention about 20 minutes after the pinch and you may notice it feels much better.</p>
<p>And there is always a question, Jane.  The question is Why?  There is a <em>reason </em>you are having symptoms.  Disks cannot move all by themselves.  So it could be an injury (any car accidents?) or it could be posture or position that is causing pulling or pushing on those disks.</p>
<p>I hope you enjoyed the shoulder rolls and stretches.  <img src='http://www.simplebackpainrelief.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Have you been to <a href="http://CarpalTunnelPainReliefNow.com " rel="nofollow">http://CarpalTunnelPainReliefNow.com</a> yet?  Lots of articles there about the causes of pain in hands and arms.  </p>
<p>You are welcome and let&#8217;s get to the root of your symptoms of numbness and pain in your hand and fingers.</p>
<p>Kathryn<br />
The Pain Relief Coach</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I&#039;ve been off work for 4 weeks and am now being referred to a back specialist. My upper back muscle between shoulder blade and spine went in to spasm, and, I believe, trapped nerves causing pins and needles in my right arm. Physiotherapist has been treating me for a herniated disc in my neck, but the numbness in my arm has only got worse, hence the referral to my GP. The pain in my arm goes under my armpit, down to my elbow, along under my foream, which is now numb and into my hand and fingers. I&#039;ve had back knots and pain for well over 20 years, had all types of treatment. I work as a graphic designer, I&#039;m 52. Can the muscle be causing the numbness, or does it have to come from discs in my neck?  I&#039;m off to do the shoulder rolls and arm stretches as shown in your video now. Thank you for listening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I&#8217;ve been off work for 4 weeks and am now being referred to a back specialist. My upper back muscle between shoulder blade and spine went in to spasm, and, I believe, trapped nerves causing pins and needles in my right arm. Physiotherapist has been treating me for a herniated disc in my neck, but the numbness in my arm has only got worse, hence the referral to my GP. The pain in my arm goes under my armpit, down to my elbow, along under my foream, which is now numb and into my hand and fingers. I&#8217;ve had back knots and pain for well over 20 years, had all types of treatment. I work as a graphic designer, I&#8217;m 52. Can the muscle be causing the numbness, or does it have to come from discs in my neck?  I&#8217;m off to do the shoulder rolls and arm stretches as shown in your video now. Thank you for listening!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Get Rid Of Muscle Pain In Rhomboid by Kathryn Merrow</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mithilesh,

Thank you for writing.  When your tests come back normal that is a good thing.  That almost always means that the pain is caused by muscles.  Muscles are the most common cause of pain.

Exercise can also cause muscle pain.  When you start a movement program or exercise program, start very slowly so you muscles can get used to it.  Otherwise your muscles get overworked and will complain.  Over several days you can start to add a little more movement.  Eventually you will be on a full exercise program without pain.

There are muscles in your chest.  The good news about that is we can massage our own rib and chest muscles!  :-)  Start pressing into the areas of muscle that you can reach.  Press with your hands or flat fingers.  If they are tender, that means they need some pressure or massage.  Hold a tender area for about 12 seconds.

Chest muscles get short and tight just because of the way we live and work.  And short chest muscles are often the cause of back pain.  Chest muscles and muscles in the fronts of arms can also benefit from stretching.

Sometimes pain feels like it is in bones but that is because muscles cross over joints and pull on bones.

I hope this will help you get rid of the pain in your chest and upper back.

Kathryn
The Pain Relief Coach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mithilesh,</p>
<p>Thank you for writing.  When your tests come back normal that is a good thing.  That almost always means that the pain is caused by muscles.  Muscles are the most common cause of pain.</p>
<p>Exercise can also cause muscle pain.  When you start a movement program or exercise program, start very slowly so you muscles can get used to it.  Otherwise your muscles get overworked and will complain.  Over several days you can start to add a little more movement.  Eventually you will be on a full exercise program without pain.</p>
<p>There are muscles in your chest.  The good news about that is we can massage our own rib and chest muscles!  <img src='http://www.simplebackpainrelief.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Start pressing into the areas of muscle that you can reach.  Press with your hands or flat fingers.  If they are tender, that means they need some pressure or massage.  Hold a tender area for about 12 seconds.</p>
<p>Chest muscles get short and tight just because of the way we live and work.  And short chest muscles are often the cause of back pain.  Chest muscles and muscles in the fronts of arms can also benefit from stretching.</p>
<p>Sometimes pain feels like it is in bones but that is because muscles cross over joints and pull on bones.</p>
<p>I hope this will help you get rid of the pain in your chest and upper back.</p>
<p>Kathryn<br />
The Pain Relief Coach</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiii gud day i m mithilesh 29 yrs 72 kg  172 cm ht . I have muscle pain in my chest as well as in my upper back also . I did ECG &amp; X Ray but everything is normal . i feel the pain in my bones . i started exercise in the morning but 1 - 2 days the pain increased i stopped exrcise . Kinldy advise me the cause &amp; treatment 

Thnks &amp; best regds 
Mithilesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiii gud day i m mithilesh 29 yrs 72 kg  172 cm ht . I have muscle pain in my chest as well as in my upper back also . I did ECG &amp; X Ray but everything is normal . i feel the pain in my bones . i started exercise in the morning but 1 &#8211; 2 days the pain increased i stopped exrcise . Kinldy advise me the cause &amp; treatment </p>
<p>Thnks &amp; best regds<br />
Mithilesh</p>
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